Sunday, June 7, 2015

From me to you and back again -3-

-This is where I talk about something. Something that comes to mind and sticks there and I want to describe so that it sticks in other peoples minds and makes them think, because that is what this is about. I want to be thinking. I want to be lit up and even alight. And I want you to leave this post with the memory of the thoughts it made you have.-

I was commenting on a blog recently, adding my wordyness to the discussion at hand, and I asked something to the point of
"If we fall in love with a book because of all the things it could be, all that is under the surface and all that comes after reading it, not directly from the story, is it the story doing that, or is it you? Should it make you love a story more, if it wasn't actually in it?"

It's something I've thought about briefly one or two other times, but now it's on my mind. I have a handful, probably more, honestly, of books that I adore because of what they gave me outside of the story. The feelings, the ideas, the points for discussion: if it wasn't actually inside the book, do you credit it to the story, the author, the thing they created, or would that be unfounded credit? Should you really be crediting yourself, for what you took further than it was. You saw a fire and you made a world, not the book. But even if that makes its own form of logic, it isn't quite enough for me, because without the book I wouldn't have any of the futher creation at all, even if it only gave it to me indirectly.
So do I credit the book for inspiring me, do I credit myself for having the imagination to take it further, and should I really be falling for books that I am creating my favourite parts of?

HOW DO YOU DEFINE YOUR BOOKISH LOVE?
Not the real question, or maybe it is, but answer it anyway, if you like. Also: what if your favourite parts of a book aren't written, but come from you?

Romi.x
P.S. I started an instagrammmmmm, because who doesn't want to see my puppy? Got you there, right? Puppies sell things wonderfully.

28 comments:

  1. This makes me think of a time when I read a book .. it was all about cooking cupcakes. So I decided to take on an adventure and go to my first cupcake store. Now I go there all the time. I totally give that book credit for it. I even remember the first time I went to the store I took some pictures and even told the ladies that the book inspired me to go there!

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    1. Oh that's so nice, Angela! Books that inspire you to adventure out of your normal activities are so fantastic. I love that you can get that passion from someone else's passion. Isn't that super neat? Thank you so much for sharing that story, Angela! xx

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    2. After I did that I started reading books hoping more would inspire me to do things like that... but I never really found any. :(

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  2. I think most writers take something from a book they once read. It may be the antagonist's scar above their left eye, the pet dog the protagonist lost in a fire, a gas station at the edge of town where every high-schooler spends their Saturday nights. In a way I think we are all inspired by something we read and it is human to add a piece of that inspiration to your writing or life in general.

    To answer your question: My bookish love is defined by words. I love a character driven story. Give me a stunningly built world any day. But my love for reading stems from beautiful writing and I hope that one day I can meet each author who inspired me to write my own stories and thank them.

    -Jordan

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    1. P.s. I am very aggravated that I have yet to see said picture of said puppy. Be honest. You really own a fish. No. *Pauses for dramatic effect.* Don't tell me. You. Own. A. Cat.

      -Jordan

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    2. P.p.s. Aggravation averted. She is a cutie. We can now continue to be friends as you are not a cat lady. ;)

      -Jordan

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    3. Thank you so much for adding your own piece to the discussion, Jordan! Being inspired to create and distruct (worlds of your own creation) and feel alive from simply words- which aren't simple at all, really- is truly awe-inspiring. Inspiring is my word of the day, 'parrently.

      I was going to say (write) that she is actually on there, in TWO whole pictures. And doubtless more. I also have a line-up on my blog somewhere, where I obsess over how utterly divine and gorgeous said puppy is. AWW. But thank you!
      I DO, however, also own 2 fish, a rabbit and we have a family cat whom I love. Cats are great! My sister has this puffball who I love dearly, even though she makes me all allergy and sniffy. It's basically a story of forbidden love between someone who wants this pet for herself and lovely cat.

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  3. For me, I always credit the book/author because I would never have that thought if not for the book. I'm trying to think of a good example here, but nothing really is coming to mind to explain what I mean. But like, maybe fan fiction would be a good example. Say you read/wrote a fanfic that you love as much or more than the originating story - just because it wasn't directly in the book, the originating characters/concept/story did come the book. I can remember during my HP fanfic phase when I was waiting the endless years for the last books to be released and I would read other people's fanfics in the meantime and totally fall in love with their version of events. That's not to say that I was unsatisfied with the direction Jo took with HP in the slightest, but I just really appreciated how these fans were able to play with her characters and story and make them their own - couldn't have happened if they weren't inspired by Jo in the first place :)

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    1. I like that, Aylee. We thank them because we realised truths through their work, even if they didn't specify them. It's so interesting because you can just have an idea because of a string of other ideas in a book, or you can consider something you never thought of before, or you can appreciate something because of what it represents, even if it doesn't go into it in the detail that you want or need or whatever. Aah. I love these discussions! Thank you so much for adding your piece, Aylee! xx

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  4. Asking the tough questions! I think I would say it's more yourself because it's you who saw something and made something special from that book, although the book deserves some credit because it was indeed the basis. Angela's example about the cupcakes is perfect, that's kind of how I would think of it as well since everyone sees something different *within* the words of a story, even though everyone is essentially reading the same words.

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    1. Oh I'm glad you think so, Alise! That actually makes me smile, thinking I am! Thank you so much for this comment, Alise! I am really loving how everyone has their own unique view on this. I agree with you, that it's up to you, it's from you, even if you were inspired, but I think it also depends on what level it gets taken to, I guess, and what the inspiration actually is.Like it all can apply distinctly, if that makes sense? xx

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  5. Ooh what an interesting question! I think I'm gonna agree with Alise up there because I think what makes a book special, and the reason why everyone has different reactions to books is how you as a reader interpret it yourself, and it's up to you whether that book finds a special place in your heart of not.

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    1. I'm so glad you think so, Melanie! That's such a wonderful way of explaining it. I'm actually sitting here and am just really moved by what you wrote. It's so incredibly right for how I feel and I'm so glad you came by and left those gorgeous words. xx

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  6. Wow I have not thought of that! There are some books for me that I think I like more for what it made me feel or how I identified with it than for it being an excellent book on it's own, so it's interesting to think how much I should credit the book! I think you have it right though that the book inspires you, so there's a lot of credit there, but it just shows how unique the relationship can be between a book and reader - it's wonderful that a reader can really add to a book!

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    1. I'm glad I got you thinking, Charlene! That's the most wonderful thing to hear.
      Yes, I agree with that completely. For me, Fahrenheit 451 is the perfect example of that. I do like the book, but the things it made me consider that it didn't actually go into, that extended past the book, and I guess I think more fondly of it because of that. Does that mean I'd like the book less if it hadn't got me thinking like than, I wonder?
      I love learning how each person feels about the books that are important to them. It's so interesting to see how we credit the works we love or feel inspired by.
      Thank you so very much for adding your thoughts to this!xx

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  7. Gosh Romi, this is incredibly deep. It just makes me wonder, because no ideas are pulled out of thin air, there is always some sort of inspiration, whether it is other stories, ideas or games or whatever. Interesting discussion!

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    1. Oh, wow Jeann! That is an incredible compliment, and I'm so glad you got something out of this discussion.
      Your comment actually makes me think of where ideas DO come from. What about so called original ideas- do they come from something we once saw, a bit here and there until it's nothing we recognise but bits of things we once did? Aah, this is why I adore discussions!
      xx

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  8. Romi, this post gave me chills. I definitely thing the book deserves some credit since it was the basis for everything that came after. I mean, if you hadn't read it, would you have felt that way after? Probably not, because nothing would have probed you to.

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    1. Well that is a huge thing for me, Lily! Is it weird to say I'm really happy to hear that? (Probably.)
      I suppose you're right... (I'm trying to write as I'm thinking, and right now I'm very thoughtful about your idea, but it's difficult to get ponderous thoughtfulness into a comment, huh?) It's interesting, though, because the idea you take away could be unrecognisable from the source, even if you know what the source is. But yes, I think it's important to know where credit is due. xx

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  9. Oh my gosh, Romi! I was thinking about this yesterday and I have a post coming up about it, too. Great minds think alike :D

    I think we can credit the book, because like you said: without that base and source for our imagination/discussion/anything else we glean from it - we never would have had those thoughts to begin with.

    It's a little bit like fanfiction. I create a story that I love, with a relationship that I ship incredibly - but I have created it from a source material that (most likely) didn't use those characters in the same way. So I have created something I love - the ship AND the fic - but I would be nowhere without the source material.

    I think love for books and other entertainment thingies comes mostly from ourselves. When does a text really truly incorporate things perfectly in a detached manner from ourselves and become a favourite? It's the things that the text makes us feel, and do (like create playlists, or fanfic, or whatever else), and imagine, and talk about that makes it a favourite. That really cements its place in our hearts.

    So it starts with the text, and we make it grow with our own experiences, and our love, and what WE bring to it. Because our interpretation of it is what is most important - even if that interpretation isn't what the author initially created.

    Lovely post, dear <3

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    1. YOU WERE? How exciting. I'll keep an intent eye out for your discussion, Chiara!

      Using fanfic is such a great reference, because that really holds strong ties to the original source/s, but it's so respected by fans because of how diverse, original and surprising it can be. But what about things that are harder to understand where they came from, even if you yourself know? I mean, my ideas that came from Fahrenheit weren't really something that was a part of the book, and they're just things I consider now and again, so I know where they came from, but they're simply not present or, really, directly linked to the source. It seems like that's a little greyer of an area.

      You left a glorious comment, particularly those last two paragraphs- they really struck me as incredibly important.
      Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts! xx

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  10. I can only think of a few books that resonated with me in such a level. Some days, I can forget about the characters, the plot lines...but I can never forget how it made me look at the world differently.

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    1. Exactly. Exactly, Joy. I feel really passionate about this book because of what I remember, even if it isn't what was actually taking place in the novel, and that's both surprising and a really stunning feeling. But at the same time, I wonder if my love for the book is undeserved, because it didn't have those things printed, even if they were there for me to find?
      xx

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  11. Oooh that's a really interesting question. I think we kind of do that to every book we read, because the words on the page only go so far. You always have to create more meaning in your head - if you have ten people read a descripition of someone and then ask them to draw that character, there aren't going to be exact replicas, but people might imagine them very differently. And that's just superficial stuff; I bet when it comes to emotions and motivations and everything else, everyone is going to make up something else for themselves. Of course that happens most with ambiguous stories, but I'd say to an extent we always do it. Alyssa recently blogged about headcanon and how you can interpret things differently than they are probably meant and that it could maybe add to your enjoyment of something. I definitely think that it's a thing, though I have no idea who should get credit for it.

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    1. Oh Vlora, thank you so much for adding to the discussion. I love the thought process of your comment and the ideas you shared. It really gets me thinking about how we all access emotions and use them in reading differently, because just as we can never tell if we all see colours exactly the same, we don't know exactly how to describe an individual emotion to see if it fits with another's.
      Awesome thoughts! Thank you *so* much for coming by and sharing, Vlora. I had such a great time reading your comment. xx

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  12. (I'm late in dropping to posts) but I remember reading a quote about how each book is a bit like a letter to all the other books that came before it so when you feel inspired by something in a book, it's like the conversation is being extended and you're carrying it in another direction/opening up a new possibility. There's also a theory about how some books leave gaps or spaces in the text for the reader's imagination to jump off from - so I guess that's why I credit a book/author who inspires something in me because I love those points. At the same time, I agree that there are so many different reading experiences so maybe stories have different lives too but it's nice to have a central point where they can meet.

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    1. Ooh, thank you so much for sharing that, Glaiza! I really love that imagry and the whole idea, aah. So interesting!
      Really, your whole comment is fantastic. There are so many factors you shared that I am all for- books having a central point where they meet, that in particular creates such a wonderous idea for me. xx

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